Orloff at Orloff's
This is Alan Orloff. He's not my brother. He's not my cousin (that I know of). But how cool that we share the same--and not too common--last name. I actually told him, as we were planning this blog that when I first started my website eight years ago or so, I used to routinely hear from Orloffs researching their family tree. Since I am from a very scarce family of Orloffs (my father being the last male) . . . I have yet to find a relative, but you never know. Actually, once I got on FB, I started hearing from some Orloffs in Russia and Europe. So far, no match there either. But Alan in my cyber-cousin. AND HE HAS A BOOK OUT. So buy it and support my family. ;-)
What Say You?
Thanks, Erica, for inviting me to guest blog today. It’s a real pleasure!
First, a note: If you’re an astute blog reader (and I know you are), then you’ve probably noticed that Erica and I have very similar last names (technically, they are identical). So, to answer the inevitable question: Not to my knowledge. Of course, we could be related. I’m from a very small family but there may be an offshoot or two I’m not familiar with. Even if we’re not exactly related, I’m honored to have such a talented “sibling.” Hopefully, somewhere along the line, our books will sit side-by-side on a bookshelf, giving people who don’t read this blog something to ponder (Hmm. I wonder if those two Orloffs are related? Not a very common name…).
If you asked 50 writers to describe their “writing processes,” you’d probably get 75 different responses. Some writers stick to a set of inviolable rules, others “meander across the meadow,” while others invoke voodoo dolls and incense, heavy on the incense (substitute “alcohol” for “incense” as required).
Hey, whatever works!
Here are a few questions to help you “define” your writing process, along with my responses.
Are you an outliner or a “seat-of-the-pantser”?
I’m an outliner. Maybe it’s my quantitative background and schooling (yes, I’m a reformed engineer), but I feel more comfortable when I know where I’m headed. I think if I tried to wing it, I’d write myself into a dark alley in Newark with no visible path home. (No offense to anyone living in Newark! Or in dark alleys!)
Do you write daily or whenever you can grab a chance?
Sometimes I write daily, sometimes I write whenever I can grab a moment. (I know, I know—this is a waffle-y answer. Everything’s not always black and white. Or even gray.) When I’m working on a draft, I’m pretty diligent about writing daily. But between projects, I have to admit I don’t write every day. Of course, if you counted emails and bios and those frustrating attempts to distill 80,000 words of a novel into four pithy sentences for back cover copy, then I suppose I do write every day. But that’s not the type of writing I call writing.
Do you revise as you go or do you plow through?
I’m a big proponent of the Plow-Thru Method (patent pending). When I’m in first draft mode, my only goal is to hit my word quota (see below), quality be damned. That’s what the second draft is for—making my first draft readable. And the third draft is for making the second draft not suck, and the fourth draft is for…well, you get the idea.
Do you have a daily quota or do you write for as long as the spirit moves you?
Per the Plow-Thru Method, I sit at my computer and type until I hit my daily quota. Then I move on to other things, even if I’m in the middle of a sentence when I hit my mark. Seriously, I am not joking about
Do you write what you want or what you think has a shot of selling?
Yes.
Do you listen to music when you write?
I love music. But I can’t write when it’s on. Same goes for kids. I love mine, but when they’re chattering in the background, I can’t seem to concentrate.
How about you? What is your writing process like?
Alan Orloff's debut mystery, DIAMONDS FOR THE DEAD, was published this month by Midnight Ink. The first in his new series, KILLER ROUTINE - A Last Laff Mystery, featuring Channing Hayes, a stand-up comic with a tragic past, will be out Spring 2011 (also from Midnight Ink). Yes, his last name is really Orloff. Small world, right? For more info, visit www.alanorloff.com

27 comments:
I had to admit I was wondering if you two were related!
My writing process is a lot like yours, Alan. Except I don't outline. :)
Elizabeth
Mystery Writing is Murder
Alan, do you love Monty Python? For some reason just about anyone who is an engineer loves that show.
Also how closely do you stick to your outline? Do you ever get inspirations that change it?
Erica, thank-you for the post a couple days ago. I finally figured out what Harvey stands for.
seat-of-pantser for me, can't write with music, although sometimes with re-writing I can if there are no lyrics. (I used to be able to. Years and years ago I sort of got hooked into a mindset where I played pretty much the same album whenever I sat down to write. My wife finally walked into my office and threatened to kill me if she heard Paul Simon's "Graceland" or Basia's "London Warsaw New York" again.
Elizabeth - I think I outline because I need as many crutches as I can get. I also try to use PowerPoint in my presentations whenever I can (another engineer trait, I guess).
Richmond - I do like Monty Python, although I'm not in the league of fans who memorize all the lines. As for sticking to my outline, whenever I get the urge to improvise, I simply change the outline to match what I've written :)
Mark - I tried that with the Bay City Rollers once and my wife threatened to kill me on the first play-through.
Alan - If you do patent your Plow-Thru method, you could make a mint with the self-help book/CD package, the info-mercials and the talk show circuit!
Like you, I outline, although it's generally a very sketchy outline, because I do sometimes change things as I go along. And, like you, much as I like music, I don't listen to it while I write. Too much distraction and "bleed-over" into what I'm writing.
I love that you will stop mid-sentence once you hit your quota. Does that plus the outline make it easier to start back up again?
Hearth Cricket
Elizabeth:
I don't outline either. :-)
E
Richmond:
That is awesome! Congrats on the breakthrough!
What do your outlines look like, Alan? I ask because I'm toying with writing a mystery, which I know will require detailed story-boarding, and I'm in the "picking brains" stage.
I get Google Alerts about another Terry Odell, who's an artist/musician/photographer/actor. Or maybe there are 4 of them!
I'm a 'with music' writer (and maybe that's why my productivity is down -- haven't hooked up the computer speakers because this computer stand is too small; can't wait to get into the house with a real office)
Margot - I'm not sure I'm an infomercial kind of guy, but if it can help promote the Plow-Thru, then I'll give it a shot!
Cricket - Easier? Maybe, but still not easy. (I think that's just my current WIP talking.) Actually, knowing what I'm going to write about when I sit down helps me get going quicker.
Hi, "Sis"! Thanks for inviting me to blog here today. (Hey, what are you bringing to Mom's for Thanksgiving this year?)
SSaS - "Outline" might be a bit of a misnomer. It's pretty spare, really, just a list of scenes in order, with accompanying notes, etc. I add, modify, delete as I go along, always trying to stay five or so scenes ahead of where I am. I will say that the major plot points don't change much. I like to keep the beginning, pivotal middle scenes, and ending in mind as I write, as "touchpoints."
Alan:
"Mom's" big into wine and appetizers. :-)
Hi Alan,
Having seen you here and at Stephen's I did wonder at first if you and Erica were related. Small world. Monteleone's from all over the globe have found me on facebook - none of them are related, either, but I do love their very cool last names :-)
My method evolves as I go. I used to be a total pantser, and I also started out writing the entire draft longhand in notebooks before typing it up and revising.
I've actually done an outline for this WIP (huge step for me), and I've been obsessively revising as I go - though I used to use the plow through method and I think I was more productive with that one.
Good luck with the release!
Bringing two Orloff’s together – isn’t the blogging world great!
I’m a seat-of-the-panster who wishes she’d write everyday but often doesn’t succeed. Maybe I should give your word count idea a try.
I read Alan's book. He has a very fluid, comfortable style. His characters are fully rounded and fascinating. He'll go far. If he types real fast, he might even catch up to Erica in output.
Terry - Another Terry Odell? Uh oh :) There's another Alan Orloff in the world and he's an accomplished French horn player, I think.
Sis - "Mom" also likes some whine with dessert.
Merry - Monteleone is a very cool last name. Just sort of rolls off the tongue. I often envy pantsers--so carefree and unfettered, writing what they please...I wonder if I should give it a try someday.
Jane - Two Orloffs together in cyberspace might be okay, but in real life? It might be like matter and anti-matter--kablooey!
Steve - Thanks for the kind words. I think I'd have to type a WHOLE LOT faster. Do you think we're on the front end of a diamond story trend? Less than two weeks until The Tavernier Stones hits the stores!
I'm not an Orloff. But this anthropomorphic meerkat is: http://www.comparethemeerkat.com/meet-team
(If you're not in the UK, you've probably been spared this. We've had to put up with him and his smoking jacket for at least a year!)
Mr. Orloff,
I will be visiting the DC area in the next week or two, and I hope you will be able to set some time aside so that we can schedule a book signing and other communications. I will have to review Ms. Orloff's Blog before I make additional comments or statements. Thank you for your consideration.
Gordon Davidson
Hampshire - THAT is too funny! Plus the little critter looks just like my Uncle Phil, right down to the ascot!
Gordo - Gordo! Give me a call--I'll sign whatever books you want! BTW, I'll be in the Pittsburgh area on May 3 at the Festival of Mystery in Oakmont.
My process is still evolving. With Pocket-47, I did a little bit of everything, but there were so many edits that involved plot issues I'm leaning toward a full outline for the next book. I'm attending one of Alexandra Sokoloff's "Screenwriting Tricks for Authors" workshops on May 8, so we'll see how it goes.
By the way, I first met Alan when our first chapters got picked for a PJ Parrish workshop at Sleuthfest one year (his was definitely one of the best). When I met Erica later, I remember asking her if they were related. Now here he is guesting on her blog. Small world indeed! Congrats on the release, Alan. Hope you sell a million.
I'd always wondered if the two of you were related.
Hello Erica and Alan!
I enjoyed reading the comments as much as I ejoyed reading this post today!
My GOODNESS ME-do you remember the Bay City Rollers, too??? God, I need a drink I feel so decrepit...Alan, perhaps it's time for me to swap my red wine and ouzo for extremely sweet cooking sherry...yuk....but that's what British Ladies of a 'certain age' drink....
My outlines are a joke - by 10.000 words I've already gone off at a tangent and usually I go with the flow after that...
I was impressed with your completing your daily quota of words. Personally, I could write 5.000 words one day and feel pretty satisfied....then comment on other peoples blogs for the next month and totally forget to revise what I've done!..Er, like this month...
It reminds me of a recent lesson I had with my (Greek) primary school students. I told them that they had to describe the last day they remembered when it snowed. The minimum amount of words was 250 words, so my friend Konstantinos wrote,
One day in my village it started to snow. It didn't stop. It snowed and snowed and snowed and snowed and snowed and snowed......etc
Well, you get the idea. He filled his 250 words just repeating himself...you don't do that do you??
Music and kids - nope, CAN NOT work with them...if I try then I'm likely to fling in a few lyrics of Bay Shitty Rollers (that's what my friends called them) into my wip without even realising it so
Erica and Alan Orloff
"Bye bye Babies....." (Bay City Rollers)
:) :)
Ann Marie:
I can't hear Bye-bye without thinking of that great scene in Love Actually with Liam Neeson at his wife's funeral.
E
Jude - Thanks! I remember that PJ Parrish workshop well. That's when I first met Mr. Colt! Oh, and you too, Jude.
Travis - And now you know the rest of the story...
Ann Marie - I may not repeat myself, but I've been known to throw in a few "blah, blah, blahs" to pad my word count. I fix it all in the next draft.
Erica - Thanks so much for having me today! I had a great time meeting your blog readers--they're a clever bunch of folk, even if they don't share our last name.
Great post!
I think I need to become an outliner as my books tend to have pacing issues and I think an outline at the beginning will help.
My dad found someone with our last name (very uncommon) and they became friends and visited each other, etc. They finally did a DNA test last year and they are in fact distant cousins. Kinda fun!
Nadine:
That is totally cool. :-)
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