Wednesday, September 10, 2008

Just Get On With It

This . . . from CNN:

Madonna is following her husband into filmmaking, with her directing debut, "Filth and Wisdom," due in theaters a couple of weeks after "RocknRolla." Her film centers on a Ukrainian cross-dressing punk-rocker and his roommates, a ballerina-turned-stripper and a humanitarian pharmacist.
Ritchie said Madonna did not seek any advice from him, and he did not volunteer any.
"With filmmaking, I think it's one of those things you should not read books on. You should just get on and do it. Then you have your own voice."



I loved this movie. I liked the "voice" of it.

I am pretty comfortable with my writing voice. It's mine and mine alone.

So thoughts on Guy Ritchie's advice?

15 comments:

Mark Terry 2:44 PM, September 10, 2008  

I think writing, at least, could be learned by reading books and writing, without necessarily reading a single book on writing. I've often found them valuable, but to what extent I'm not sure.

However, film making is very expensive, so if I were a movie producer or studio who planned to drop several millions of dollars on getting a movie made, I might feel better if the person I was giving the money to had some idea what they were doing. Knowing they might have read a book or two on the subject might allow me to sleep at night.

Erica Orloff 2:48 PM, September 10, 2008  

Mark:
Snatch (Richie's film) feels very audacious, very commando style. Same with Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels. Sometimes I think his lack of film training worked in his favor with them.

RocknRolla is getting good reviews too. We can forget about Swept Away. :-)
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Stephen Parrish 2:55 PM, September 10, 2008  

Some people (Richie may be one of them) work best when they shoot from the hip. The rest of us would do well to listen to advice.

Erica Orloff 3:04 PM, September 10, 2008  

Stephen:
I tend to agree--except when it comes to voice. I think it's such a gut thing--but maybe I say that because mine feels "gut."

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Amy Sue Nathan 3:21 PM, September 10, 2008  

I really flew by the seat of my pants when I started writing for publication about three years ago. Honestly - I winged it. Being naive can really pay off sometimes because it's honest and it's real in a world that is often tainted.

My nonfiction voice is pretty strong and sturdy - recognizable. I like that. I'm gaining comfort with my fiction voice for my WIP because it's still, after a year of writing, still new to me to make stuff up.

Heather Harper 3:30 PM, September 10, 2008  

I agree with Guy. (In regards to film and writing.) Took me awhile to recognize my own voice, but the more I wrote, the more I was able to recognize when I was trying to sound like anything other than me.

Anonymous 3:52 PM, September 10, 2008  

I agree, voice comes from the gut. And I love that, because it's real and imitation is more noticable.

Erica Orloff 5:36 PM, September 10, 2008  

amy:
I agree . . . there's some aspect to being very "real" in writing.

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Erica Orloff 5:37 PM, September 10, 2008  

heather;
What a great point. When I try to write too lofty . . . forget it!

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Erica Orloff 5:38 PM, September 10, 2008  

Hi Ladonna:
Trusting the gut is so important--but I guess that can come from being raw and new--or from honing it as a skill over time.
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Spy Scribbler 8:50 PM, September 10, 2008  

I thought they divorced. I totally am not in touch with who's who, LOL.

I like your voice, too. You didn't take my comment any other way, did you? Prolly not, I'm always overworried about stuff like that. I like your voice just the way it is. :-)

I'm of the "do" philosophy, too. I know my voice, but I like to push at it and play with it. As much as I resist change, I seem pretty obsessed with it in the different "work" areas of my life. It probably doesn't change as much as I'd like to imagine, LOL.

Jude Hardin 9:28 PM, September 10, 2008  

I don't know. Film is usually a very collaborative effort, and I think the person at the helm needs a clear understanding of the technical and theoretical aspects of the medium to effectively communicate with the others involved and guide them toward a satisfying finished product. Lighting, sound, camera shots and angles, the actors' motivations and emotions, dialogue, sceenplay structure...

I think the director needs to know what s/he is doing, whether that knowledge comes from film school/books or from on-the-job experience (i.e. as an assistant director, etc.).

I've never made a film, but I imagine much of the "voice" is found in the editing room.

Erica Orloff 6:31 AM, September 11, 2008  

spy:
LOL! No, they are together. :-)

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Erica Orloff 6:34 AM, September 11, 2008  

Jude:
Richie has a very unusual back story. And I think, like the Dogma 95 (or Dogme 95 in Denmark) filmmakers, there's a sense of his voice being the "thing" about him. He strikes me as a very commando filmmaker, but I could be wrong.

E

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